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		<title>Where Kevin Durant fits in with the ‘Greatest NBA Player Ever’ debate</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As LeBron James capped off quite the spectacular year with a gold medal win over Spain in the Olympics, it sparked the most popular debate in the sport of basketball: Who is the greatest player ever? Jim Boeheim got the ball rolling saying he used to think Michael Jordan was the greatest player ever but [...]</p><p><a href="http://thunderousintentions.com/2012/08/16/where-kevin-durant-fits-in-with-the-greatest-nba-player-ever-debate/">Where Kevin Durant fits in with the ‘Greatest NBA Player Ever’ debate</a> - <a href="http://thunderousintentions.com">Thunderous Intentions</a> - <a href="http://thunderousintentions.com">Thunderous Intentions - An Oklahoma City Thunder Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
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<p>As LeBron James capped off quite the spectacular year with a gold medal win over Spain in the Olympics, it sparked the most popular debate in the sport of basketball: Who is the greatest player ever?</p>
<p>Jim Boeheim got the ball rolling saying he used to think Michael Jordan was the greatest player ever but after spending six weeks with LeBron, was no longer sure about that.</p>
<p>Then everybody started voicing their opinions.</p>
<p>That’s enough about that though. What I’m curious about is where Kevin Durant fits in with all of this. When his career is over, where will we remember him on the hierarchy of greatest players ever?</p>
<p>Durant just finished his fifth season in the NBA so yes, it’s early on. But he’s already challenging LeBron in some respects and is widely considered the second best player in the NBA right now at just 23 years old. He won his third straight scoring title last season, has finished second in the MVP voting twice and has already led his team to the NBA Finals.</p>
<p>More than any other player in the NBA, Durant was put on earth to play basketball and to score in particular. But he’s not from the same mold as Jordan, LeBron or Kobe so we rarely talk about Durant as someone who could go down as the greatest ever. He’s been more one-dimensional so far in his career too, viewed as just a scorer who isn’t a great passer or defender yet.</p>
<p>Those things are all true and that’s why no one talks about him yet as a potential G.O.A.T. but he still has a very good chance to go down as a top ten or maybe even top five player ever.</p>
<p>Durant’s shot at being remembered that good will have a lot to do with team success. Right now he is part of the best young team in the NBA that is already good enough to compete for an NBA title. It’s easy to look at the Thunder as a team that will be able to compete for a championship for the next decade. They’ve been compared to and are modeled after the San Antonio Spurs, who won four titles in the Duncan era from 1998 until now. If Durant can do the same kind of thing in OKC, he will be remembered in a similar light as Duncan.</p>
<p>Durant also has a chance to go down as a historically great statistical player. He is obviously on pace to score about as many points as anyone ever. Durant’s game is still evolving though so it’s tough to know if he will be able to sustain being such a high-scorer later in his career.</p>
<p>To do this he will have to start going into the post more. He started doing this some last season and even implemented Dirk’s patented stepback jumper. If Durant can learn more from Dirk and develop the kind of post-up game Dirk has had these past few seasons, that would seem the most likely way to keep scoring at the clip he has been.</p>
<p>The top five scorers in NBA history right now are Kareem, Mailman, Jordan, Wilt and Kobe in that order. LeBron has a good shot to get into the top five by the end of his career. If Durant plays long enough, he has a really good chance to pass Malone and get within striking distance of Kareem or wherever Kobe ends up.</p>
<p>The other factor in determining Durant’s greatness is how good of a shooter he is. He has a legitimate chance to go down being remembered as the best shooter to ever play in the NBA. It’s something that isn’t debated about as much really because it’s hard to say what constitutes being the best shooter ever is.</p>
<p>We have Reggie Miller and Ray Allen who are known as the best 3-point shooters ever. Then there’s Bird, Dirk, Maravich and Nash who are often in the conversation. You can even make a case for a player like Steve Kerr as one of the best shooters ever.</p>
<p>Durant could define the debate with what he has a chance to do in his career. To be as skilled as he is at 7-foot tall with the kind of range he has is unprecedented. It would be hard for him to touch Reggie or Ray in terms of career threes made but he has a relatively easy chance to become third on the all-time list (now held by Jason Kidd).</p>
<p>Durant is a career 88 percent free throw shooter as well and shot just under 50 percent from the field last season. If he can string together some 50-40-90 shooting seasons while still scoring as much as he does, it will become tough to argue that he isn’t the greatest shooter ever.</p>
<p>So let’s say Durant wins like three NBA titles, retires as the league’s third all-time leading scorer, top five in points per game for his career and makes the third most threes all-time, that would put him right up there with some of the greats of all-time.</p>
<p>Again, it’s early and that’s a lot of pressure and expectations to meet but I kind of see that as his relatively conceivable ceiling. He’d end up right around Duncan-Shaq-Moses-West in the greatest of all-time rankings. I’d be good with that.</p>
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		<title>Kevin Durant as a shooter using Kirk Goldsberry&#8217;s CourtVision</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Kennedy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Kirk Goldsberry is a professor specializing in spatial reasoning, visual communication, and geographic representation who also loves the NBA. His research paper titled CourtVision: New Visual and Spatial Analytics for the NBA was the runner-up at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference. Goldsberry’s goal with the paper was to determine who the best shooter in [...]</p><p><a href="http://thunderousintentions.com/2012/04/13/kevin-durant-as-a-shooter-using-kirk-goldsberrys-courtvision/">Kevin Durant as a shooter using Kirk Goldsberry&#8217;s CourtVision</a> - <a href="http://thunderousintentions.com">Thunderous Intentions</a> - <a href="http://thunderousintentions.com">Thunderous Intentions - An Oklahoma City Thunder Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk Goldsberry is a professor specializing in spatial reasoning, visual communication, and geographic representation who also loves the NBA. His research paper titled <a href="http://www.sloansportsconference.com/?p=6132">CourtVision: New Visual and Spatial Analytics for the NBA</a> was the runner-up at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference.</p>
<p>Goldsberry’s goal with the paper was to determine who the best shooter in the NBA was. Instead of just looking at field goal percentage and true shooting percentage Goldsberry broke down every player in the NBA seeing how well they shot from the widest variety of locations.</p>
<p>He found that Steve Nash and Ray Allen were the best shooters in the NBA. I could have told you that. The research was awesome though and goes much further than just settling the argument of who the best shooter in the league is.</p>
<p>It’s about where on the court players shoot the best from and how often they shoot from certain spaces. It can provide great scouting analysis of teams and specific players.</p>
<p>Most recently, Goldsberry took a look at <a href="http://www.kirkgoldsberry.com/courtvision.htm">Kevin Durant this season.</a></p>
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<p>Durant is shooting a career-high 50 percent from the field this season and 37.9 percent from three. Durant also has a career-high 61 true shooting percentage this season and is in the conversation for winning the MVP this season.</p>
<p>It’s more interesting to look at Durant’s shooting through the eyes of Goldsberry’s CourtVision.</p>
<p>Durant shoots the majority of his threes from the top of the key and the wings. He takes a lot of threes off the dribble in isolation situations and on catch-and-shoots.</p>
<p>We see that Durant is better at shooting at shooting on the left side of the court. This is because Durant likes to come into his shot with his left hand when dribbling. Most great right-handed shooters are like this.</p>
<p>Only the best right-handed shooters become just as good at shooting when going to their right like Nash, Allen and Kobe Bryant. Then there are some like Paul Pierce who seem to like it more. But for the most part, good right-handed shooters prefer to bring the ball up from their left hand.</p>
<p>It’s interesting that Durant is under 30 percent on threes from the right wing. I think that is because of his low percentage when shooting from their off the dribble. He is definitely a good catch-and-shoot guy from that spot or at least should be since he is a righty.</p>
<p>The other thing to note about Durant being a better shooter on the left side of the floor is how he gets his shots. He uses his length and stepback move as an advantage rather than strength to get most of his shots. He’s better with a fadeaway than a strong drive and pull-up. This is why you see better shooting numbers on the left side of the floor and especially the mid-range area.</p>
<p>Players still play Durant to drive left because he is a better finisher at the rim on the right side. We still see Durant drive and shoot on the right side of the floor a lot though. Durant does the smart thing of attacking the top foot when he is defended one-on-one and is looking to drive which means he usually goes right.</p>
<p>As Durant develops for him to become an even more complete scorer he will have to get stronger at finishing with pull-up jump shots going to his right and work on making the stepback shot to his right.</p>
<p>Durant is still probably the best scorer in the world so it will become pretty unfair as he improves in these areas.</p>
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<p>Head on over to <a href="http://www.kirkgoldsberry.com/courtvision.htm">Kirk Goldsberry&#8217;s website</a> to see more of his work using CourtVision.</p>
<p>Also follow him on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/kirkgoldsberry">@kirkgoldsberry</a></p>
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